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		<description><![CDATA[Take a look at this article from today&#8217;s Guardian &#8211; basically some guy in the audience at a jazz festival in Spain called the police to complain that a gig by a saxophone player called Larry Ochs wasn&#8217;t jazzy enough&#8230; And the police agreed! Check out the band&#8217;s music below. This got me thinking about [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/dec/09/jazz-festival-larry-ochs-saxophone">this</a> article from today&#8217;s Guardian &#8211; basically some guy in the audience at a jazz festival in Spain called the police to complain that a gig by a saxophone player called Larry Ochs wasn&#8217;t jazzy enough&#8230; And the police agreed! Check out the band&#8217;s music below.</p>
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<p>This got me thinking about how difficult it is to classify contemporary music nowadays, as musicians bring together influences that are so wide ranging &#8211; from classical to rock to world and everything in between. I remember reading articles about the <a href="http://porticoquartet.com/">Portico Quartet</a> recently, for example, where the authors and even the quartet themselves were bemoaning the fact that their records were classified as either &#8216;jazz&#8217; or &#8216;world&#8217; whereas in reality its somewhere in between.</p>
<p>When I&#8217;ve been promoting the Beats &amp; Pieces Big Band, I sometimes find it difficult to describe exactly what the music is &#8211; I&#8217;d say its definitely jazz (but even then, what is jazz?! A whole other can of worms&#8230;) but in places its also rock, electronica, minimalist classical etc etc&#8230; And I also play many free improv gigs, at the <a href="http://www.thenoiseupstairs.com">Noise Upstairs</a> or with <a href="http://www.myspace.com/tokenotter">Token Otter</a> for instance; how would that music be classified?</p>
<p>To be honest I&#8217;m not really sure what the point I&#8217;m trying to make is, so I&#8217;m not too sure what I&#8217;m trying to say &#8211; just thought it was an amusing article that also raises lots of questions. So go on, discuss!</p>
<p>(Also for the record, I&#8217;d disagree with the Spanish Police and say Larry Ochs&#8217; music was close enough to jazz. Kinda reminds me of Tom Arthurs&#8217; <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tom-Arthurs-Centripede/dp/B0000E1PIA">Centripede</a> group, based on this clip at least&#8230;)</p>
<p><br/><br/><strong>UPDATE</strong>: I read <a href="http://kitdownes.wordpress.com/2009/12/13/dissertation-questions-i-answered/">this</a> post by Kit Downes where he talks about the word &#8216;jazz&#8217; as being a creative process rather than an end product&#8230; Kinda answers some of the questions I was posing above, and its a great read in itself.<br/></p>
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